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Network · data from 2026-11-12

AS27357 RACKSPACE - Rackspace Hosting

Registry name: RACKSPACE - Rackspace Hosting, US · not in PeeringDB

53IPv4 routes 1.9% RPKI valid · 66.0% with a route object
1IPv6 routes 0.0% RPKI valid · 100.0% with a route object
0RPKI invalid 0 origin · 0 maxLength
53No ROA 18 with no route object for this origin
15Low visibility seen by under 10% of full-table peers
63Route objects not announced registered with origin AS27357, seen from no peer

Announced routes

Every prefix a peer of the route collectors sees with origin AS27357, things to look at first. Visibility = full-table peers that see it, of 673 (IPv4) and 636 (IPv6) on 75 collectors. Also as routes.csv.
198.210.16.0/22 No ROA Nonecovered by 198.210.16.0/21 672 100% 67
198.210.20.0/22 No ROA Nonecovered by 198.210.16.0/21 672 100% 67
192.68.40.0/24 No ROA Other origin only 670 100% 67
64.27.64.70/32 No ROA Nonecovered by 64.27.64.0/18 9 1%low visibility 8
64.27.64.71/32 No ROA Nonecovered by 64.27.64.0/18 9 1%low visibility 8
173.203.184.84/32 No ROA Nonecovered by 173.203.128.0/18 9 1%low visibility 8
173.203.184.85/32 No ROA Nonecovered by 173.203.128.0/18 9 1%low visibility 8
173.203.184.86/32 No ROA Nonecovered by 173.203.128.0/18 9 1%low visibility 8
173.203.184.87/32 No ROA Nonecovered by 173.203.128.0/18 9 1%low visibility 8
173.203.184.88/32 No ROA Nonecovered by 173.203.128.0/18 9 1%low visibility 8
173.203.184.89/32 No ROA Nonecovered by 173.203.128.0/18 9 1%low visibility 8
173.203.184.90/32 No ROA Nonecovered by 173.203.128.0/18 9 1%low visibility 8
173.203.184.91/32 No ROA Nonecovered by 173.203.128.0/18 9 1%low visibility 8
173.203.184.93/32 No ROA Nonecovered by 173.203.128.0/18 9 1%low visibility 8
173.203.184.94/32 No ROA Nonecovered by 173.203.128.0/18 9 1%low visibility 8
204.232.141.24/32 No ROA Nonecovered by 204.232.128.0/18 9 1%low visibility 8
204.232.141.25/32 No ROA Nonecovered by 204.232.128.0/18 9 1%low visibility 8
207.97.217.27/32 No ROA Nonecovered by 207.97.192.0/19 9 1%low visibility 8
23.253.128.0/19 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB, RIPE-NONAUTH 672 100% 67
72.4.112.0/20 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB, RIPE-NONAUTH 672 100% 67
74.205.0.0/19 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB, RIPE-NONAUTH 672 100% 67
104.130.0.0/18 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB, RIPE-NONAUTH 672 100% 67
104.130.160.0/19 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB, RIPE-NONAUTH 672 100% 67
104.130.224.0/20 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB, RIPE-NONAUTH 672 100% 67
104.239.160.0/19 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB, RIPE-NONAUTH 672 100% 67
104.239.224.0/20 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB, RIPE-NONAUTH 672 100% 67
104.239.248.0/21 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB, RIPE-NONAUTH 672 100% 67
159.135.64.0/20 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB 672 100% 67
162.242.192.0/19 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB, RIPE-NONAUTH 672 100% 67
162.242.224.0/19 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB, RIPE-NONAUTH 672 100% 67
172.99.64.0/19 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB, RIPE-NONAUTH 672 100% 67
173.203.128.0/18 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB, RIPE-NONAUTH 672 100% 67
204.232.224.0/19 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB, RIPE-NONAUTH 672 100% 67
207.97.192.0/18 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB, RIPE-NONAUTH 672 100% 67
65.61.141.0/24 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB, RIPE-NONAUTH 670 100% 67
65.61.142.0/23 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB, RIPE-NONAUTH 670 100% 67
65.61.146.0/23 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB, RIPE-NONAUTH 670 100% 67
65.61.152.0/24 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB, RIPE-NONAUTH 670 100% 67
65.61.186.0/23 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB, RIPE-NONAUTH 670 100% 67
104.130.120.0/22 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB, RIPE-NONAUTH 670 100% 67
156.43.59.0/24 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB 670 100% 67
159.135.254.0/24 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB 670 100% 67
173.204.89.0/24 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB 670 100% 67
204.51.224.0/24 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB 670 100% 67
204.51.235.0/24 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB 670 100% 67
69.20.0.0/17 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB, RIPE-NONAUTH 669 99% 67
146.20.0.0/16 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB, RIPE-NONAUTH 669 99% 67
162.209.96.0/19 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB, RIPE-NONAUTH 669 99% 67
204.232.128.0/18 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB, RIPE-NONAUTH 669 99% 67
209.0.201.0/24 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB 654 97% 67
2001:4802::/32 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB, RIPE-NONAUTH 636 100% 67
69.20.95.0/24 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB, RIPE-NONAUTH 530 79% 64
198.210.16.0/21 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB, RIPE-NONAUTH 82 12% 40
142.0.184.0/22 Valid Other IRR onlyRADB, RIPE-NONAUTH 670 100% 67

AS-SET

AS27357 isn't in PeeringDB, where networks name their AS-SET.

Fix list

The changes that would bring RPKI, the IRR and what's announced into line. Some are deliberate (a route object kept for a backup route, say); the network decides. All 170 are in fix.csv.

  • ROA: none53
  • Route object: none18
  • Route object: RIR36
  • Route object: not announced63
ChangePrefix or setDetailFull-table peers
ROA: none198.210.16.0/22No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 22.672 of 673
Route object: none198.210.16.0/22No route object for it. A route object for 198.210.16.0/21 with origin AS27357 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS27357 in the RIR database for the space.672 of 673
ROA: none198.210.20.0/22No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 22.672 of 673
Route object: none198.210.20.0/22No route object for it. A route object for 198.210.16.0/21 with origin AS27357 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS27357 in the RIR database for the space.672 of 673
ROA: none192.68.40.0/24No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 24.670 of 673
Route object: none192.68.40.0/24Route objects for it name AS12200, AS202893. Add a route object with origin AS27357 in the RIR database for the space.670 of 673
ROA: none64.27.64.70/32No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 32.9 of 673
Route object: none64.27.64.70/32No route object for it. A route object for 64.27.64.0/18 with origin AS27357 covers it (too long for filters allowing more-specifics up to /24). Add a route object with origin AS27357 in the RIR database for the space.9 of 673
ROA: none64.27.64.71/32No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 32.9 of 673
Route object: none64.27.64.71/32No route object for it. A route object for 64.27.64.0/18 with origin AS27357 covers it (too long for filters allowing more-specifics up to /24). Add a route object with origin AS27357 in the RIR database for the space.9 of 673
ROA: none173.203.184.84/32No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 32.9 of 673
Route object: none173.203.184.84/32No route object for it. A route object for 173.203.128.0/18 with origin AS27357 covers it (too long for filters allowing more-specifics up to /24). Add a route object with origin AS27357 in the RIR database for the space.9 of 673
ROA: none173.203.184.85/32No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 32.9 of 673
Route object: none173.203.184.85/32No route object for it. A route object for 173.203.128.0/18 with origin AS27357 covers it (too long for filters allowing more-specifics up to /24). Add a route object with origin AS27357 in the RIR database for the space.9 of 673
ROA: none173.203.184.86/32No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 32.9 of 673
Route object: none173.203.184.86/32No route object for it. A route object for 173.203.128.0/18 with origin AS27357 covers it (too long for filters allowing more-specifics up to /24). Add a route object with origin AS27357 in the RIR database for the space.9 of 673
ROA: none173.203.184.87/32No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 32.9 of 673
Route object: none173.203.184.87/32No route object for it. A route object for 173.203.128.0/18 with origin AS27357 covers it (too long for filters allowing more-specifics up to /24). Add a route object with origin AS27357 in the RIR database for the space.9 of 673
ROA: none173.203.184.88/32No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 32.9 of 673
Route object: none173.203.184.88/32No route object for it. A route object for 173.203.128.0/18 with origin AS27357 covers it (too long for filters allowing more-specifics up to /24). Add a route object with origin AS27357 in the RIR database for the space.9 of 673
ROA: none173.203.184.89/32No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 32.9 of 673
Route object: none173.203.184.89/32No route object for it. A route object for 173.203.128.0/18 with origin AS27357 covers it (too long for filters allowing more-specifics up to /24). Add a route object with origin AS27357 in the RIR database for the space.9 of 673
ROA: none173.203.184.90/32No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 32.9 of 673
Route object: none173.203.184.90/32No route object for it. A route object for 173.203.128.0/18 with origin AS27357 covers it (too long for filters allowing more-specifics up to /24). Add a route object with origin AS27357 in the RIR database for the space.9 of 673
ROA: none173.203.184.91/32No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 32.9 of 673
Route object: none173.203.184.91/32No route object for it. A route object for 173.203.128.0/18 with origin AS27357 covers it (too long for filters allowing more-specifics up to /24). Add a route object with origin AS27357 in the RIR database for the space.9 of 673
ROA: none173.203.184.93/32No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 32.9 of 673
Route object: none173.203.184.93/32No route object for it. A route object for 173.203.128.0/18 with origin AS27357 covers it (too long for filters allowing more-specifics up to /24). Add a route object with origin AS27357 in the RIR database for the space.9 of 673
ROA: none173.203.184.94/32No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 32.9 of 673
Route object: none173.203.184.94/32No route object for it. A route object for 173.203.128.0/18 with origin AS27357 covers it (too long for filters allowing more-specifics up to /24). Add a route object with origin AS27357 in the RIR database for the space.9 of 673
ROA: none204.232.141.24/32No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 32.9 of 673
Route object: none204.232.141.24/32No route object for it. A route object for 204.232.128.0/18 with origin AS27357 covers it (too long for filters allowing more-specifics up to /24). Add a route object with origin AS27357 in the RIR database for the space.9 of 673
ROA: none204.232.141.25/32No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 32.9 of 673
Route object: none204.232.141.25/32No route object for it. A route object for 204.232.128.0/18 with origin AS27357 covers it (too long for filters allowing more-specifics up to /24). Add a route object with origin AS27357 in the RIR database for the space.9 of 673
ROA: none207.97.217.27/32No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 32.9 of 673
Route object: none207.97.217.27/32No route object for it. A route object for 207.97.192.0/19 with origin AS27357 covers it (too long for filters allowing more-specifics up to /24). Add a route object with origin AS27357 in the RIR database for the space.9 of 673
ROA: none23.253.128.0/19No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 19.672 of 673
Route object: RIR23.253.128.0/19Route object only in RADB, RIPE-NONAUTH. Add it in the RIR database for the space.672 of 673
ROA: none72.4.112.0/20No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 20.672 of 673
Route object: RIR72.4.112.0/20Route object only in RADB, RIPE-NONAUTH. Add it in the RIR database for the space.672 of 673
ROA: none74.205.0.0/19No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 19.672 of 673
Route object: RIR74.205.0.0/19Route object only in RADB, RIPE-NONAUTH. Add it in the RIR database for the space.672 of 673
ROA: none104.130.0.0/18No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 18.672 of 673
Route object: RIR104.130.0.0/18Route object only in RADB, RIPE-NONAUTH. Add it in the RIR database for the space.672 of 673
ROA: none104.130.160.0/19No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 19.672 of 673
Route object: RIR104.130.160.0/19Route object only in RADB, RIPE-NONAUTH. Add it in the RIR database for the space.672 of 673
ROA: none104.130.224.0/20No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 20.672 of 673
Route object: RIR104.130.224.0/20Route object only in RADB, RIPE-NONAUTH. Add it in the RIR database for the space.672 of 673
ROA: none104.239.160.0/19No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 19.672 of 673
Route object: RIR104.239.160.0/19Route object only in RADB, RIPE-NONAUTH. Add it in the RIR database for the space.672 of 673
ROA: none104.239.224.0/20No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 20.672 of 673
Route object: RIR104.239.224.0/20Route object only in RADB, RIPE-NONAUTH. Add it in the RIR database for the space.672 of 673
ROA: none104.239.248.0/21No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 21.672 of 673
Route object: RIR104.239.248.0/21Route object only in RADB, RIPE-NONAUTH. Add it in the RIR database for the space.672 of 673
ROA: none159.135.64.0/20No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 20.672 of 673
Route object: RIR159.135.64.0/20Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space.672 of 673
ROA: none162.242.192.0/19No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 19.672 of 673
Route object: RIR162.242.192.0/19Route object only in RADB, RIPE-NONAUTH. Add it in the RIR database for the space.672 of 673
ROA: none162.242.224.0/19No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 19.672 of 673
Route object: RIR162.242.224.0/19Route object only in RADB, RIPE-NONAUTH. Add it in the RIR database for the space.672 of 673
ROA: none172.99.64.0/19No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 19.672 of 673
Route object: RIR172.99.64.0/19Route object only in RADB, RIPE-NONAUTH. Add it in the RIR database for the space.672 of 673
ROA: none173.203.128.0/18No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 18.672 of 673
Route object: RIR173.203.128.0/18Route object only in RADB, RIPE-NONAUTH. Add it in the RIR database for the space.672 of 673
ROA: none204.232.224.0/19No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 19.672 of 673
Route object: RIR204.232.224.0/19Route object only in RADB, RIPE-NONAUTH. Add it in the RIR database for the space.672 of 673
ROA: none207.97.192.0/18No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 18.672 of 673
Route object: RIR207.97.192.0/18Route object only in RADB, RIPE-NONAUTH. Add it in the RIR database for the space.672 of 673
ROA: none65.61.141.0/24No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 24.670 of 673
Route object: RIR65.61.141.0/24Route object only in RADB, RIPE-NONAUTH. Add it in the RIR database for the space.670 of 673
ROA: none65.61.142.0/23No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 23.670 of 673
Route object: RIR65.61.142.0/23Route object only in RADB, RIPE-NONAUTH. Add it in the RIR database for the space.670 of 673
ROA: none65.61.146.0/23No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 23.670 of 673
Route object: RIR65.61.146.0/23Route object only in RADB, RIPE-NONAUTH. Add it in the RIR database for the space.670 of 673
ROA: none65.61.152.0/24No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 24.670 of 673
Route object: RIR65.61.152.0/24Route object only in RADB, RIPE-NONAUTH. Add it in the RIR database for the space.670 of 673
ROA: none65.61.186.0/23No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 23.670 of 673
Route object: RIR65.61.186.0/23Route object only in RADB, RIPE-NONAUTH. Add it in the RIR database for the space.670 of 673
ROA: none104.130.120.0/22No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 22.670 of 673
Route object: RIR104.130.120.0/22Route object only in RADB, RIPE-NONAUTH. Add it in the RIR database for the space.670 of 673
ROA: none156.43.59.0/24No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 24.670 of 673
Route object: RIR156.43.59.0/24Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space.670 of 673
ROA: none159.135.254.0/24No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 24.670 of 673
Route object: RIR159.135.254.0/24Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space.670 of 673
ROA: none173.204.89.0/24No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 24.670 of 673
Route object: RIR173.204.89.0/24Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space.670 of 673
ROA: none204.51.224.0/24No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 24.670 of 673
Route object: RIR204.51.224.0/24Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space.670 of 673
ROA: none204.51.235.0/24No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 24.670 of 673
Route object: RIR204.51.235.0/24Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space.670 of 673
ROA: none69.20.0.0/17No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 17.669 of 673
Route object: RIR69.20.0.0/17Route object only in RADB, RIPE-NONAUTH. Add it in the RIR database for the space.669 of 673
ROA: none146.20.0.0/16No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 16.669 of 673
Route object: RIR146.20.0.0/16Route object only in RADB, RIPE-NONAUTH. Add it in the RIR database for the space.669 of 673
ROA: none162.209.96.0/19No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 19.669 of 673
Route object: RIR162.209.96.0/19Route object only in RADB, RIPE-NONAUTH. Add it in the RIR database for the space.669 of 673
ROA: none204.232.128.0/18No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 18.669 of 673
Route object: RIR204.232.128.0/18Route object only in RADB, RIPE-NONAUTH. Add it in the RIR database for the space.669 of 673
ROA: none209.0.201.0/24No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 24.654 of 673
Route object: RIR209.0.201.0/24Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space.654 of 673
ROA: none2001:4802::/32No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 32.636 of 636
Route object: RIR2001:4802::/32Route object only in RADB, RIPE-NONAUTH. Add it in the RIR database for the space.636 of 636
ROA: none69.20.95.0/24No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 24.530 of 673
Route object: RIR69.20.95.0/24Route object only in RADB, RIPE-NONAUTH. Add it in the RIR database for the space.530 of 673
ROA: none198.210.16.0/21No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS27357, maxLength 21.82 of 673
Route object: RIR198.210.16.0/21Route object only in RADB, RIPE-NONAUTH. Add it in the RIR database for the space.82 of 673
Route object: RIR142.0.184.0/22Route object only in RADB, RIPE-NONAUTH. Add it in the RIR database for the space.670 of 673

Route objects not announced

Route objects with origin AS27357 whose prefix no peer sees AS27357 announce. Many are kept on purpose (backup routes, space announced only in some places).

23.253.128.0/18RADBNo ROA
23.253.240.0/20RADBNo ROA
63.106.131.0/24RADBNo ROA
64.27.64.0/18RADBNo ROA
64.27.126.0/23RADBNo ROA
64.45.163.0/24RADBNo ROA
64.106.128.0/17RADBNo ROA
64.106.131.0/24RADBNo ROA
64.106.223.0/24RADBNo ROA
65.17.192.0/18RADBNo ROA
65.61.188.0/22RADBNo ROA
65.61.188.0/24RADB, RIPE-NONAUTHNo ROA
65.61.189.0/24RADBNo ROA
65.61.190.0/23RADBNo ROA
66.70.0.0/17RADBNo ROA
66.70.50.0/23RADBNo ROA
69.20.0.0/18RADBNo ROA
69.20.64.0/20RADBNo ROA
69.20.80.0/21RADBNo ROA
69.20.88.0/22RADBNo ROA
69.20.92.0/23RADBNo ROA
69.20.94.0/24RADBNo ROA
69.20.96.0/19RADBNo ROA
69.20.96.0/24RADBNo ROA
69.59.134.0/24RADBNo ROA
69.72.32.0/20RADBNo ROA
146.20.0.0/18RADBNo ROA
146.197.181.0/24RADBNo ROA
156.53.53.0/24RADBNo ROA
159.135.112.0/24RADBNo ROA
159.135.234.0/23RADBNo ROA
159.135.236.0/22RADBNo ROA
162.247.112.0/21RADB, RIPE-NONAUTHNo ROA
166.86.0.0/22RADBNo ROA
166.86.0.0/24RADBNo ROA
168.235.224.0/20RIPE-NONAUTHNo ROA
192.65.36.0/24RADBNo ROA
192.155.52.0/24RADB, RIPE-NONAUTHNo ROA
192.155.53.0/24RADB, RIPE-NONAUTHNo ROA
192.155.54.0/24RADB, RIPE-NONAUTHNo ROA
198.184.18.0/24RADBNo ROA
198.244.48.0/20RADBNo ROA
199.187.164.0/22RADBNo ROA
204.9.188.0/24RADBNo ROA
204.51.170.0/24RADBNo ROA
204.220.160.0/20RADBNo ROA
204.232.128.0/17RADBNo ROA
204.232.155.0/24RADBNo ROA
206.188.0.0/19RADBNo ROA
206.188.208.0/22RADBNo ROA
207.97.192.0/19RADBNo ROA
207.97.192.0/20RADBNo ROA
207.97.223.0/24RADBNo ROA
208.95.152.0/22RADBNo ROA
209.18.64.0/18RADBNo ROA
209.133.224.0/19RADB, RIPE-NONAUTHNo ROA
216.105.48.0/20RADBNo ROA
2001:4800:8000::/48RADBNo ROA
2001:4800:8001::/48RADBNo ROA
2001:4800:8100::/48RADBNo ROA
2001:4800:8101::/48RADBNo ROA
2607:e3c0:a042::/48RADBNo ROA
2620:103:2::/48RIPE-NONAUTHNo ROA

Routes: the 08:00 UTC snapshots of 2026-11-12 from 75 RIPE RIS and RouteViews collectors. RPKI: our rpki-client run before the snapshot. IRR: the day's dumps of the five RIR databases and RADB's mirrors. The LEVEL3 and IDNIC databases publish no dump and aren't read, so route objects only there count as none.