Network · data from 2026-11-12
AS265126 FLEETNET TELECOMUNICACOES
Registry name: AS265126 - FLEETNET TELECOMUNICACOES LTDA - ME, BR · PeeringDB
25IPv4 routes
0.0% RPKI valid · 56.0% with a route object
20IPv6 routes
0.0% RPKI valid · 15.0% with a route object
0RPKI invalid
0 origin · 0 maxLength
45No ROA
28 with no route object for this origin
0Low visibility
seen by under 10% of full-table peers
28Route objects not announced
registered with origin AS265126, seen from no peer
Announced routes
Every prefix a peer of the route collectors sees with origin AS265126, things to look at first. Visibility = full-table peers that see it, of 673 (IPv4) and 636 (IPv6) on 75 collectors. Also as routes.csv.
| 143.208.112.0/22 | No ROA | Other origin only | 670 100% |
| 143.208.112.0/23 | No ROA | Other origin only | 670 100% |
| 143.208.114.0/23 | No ROA | Other origin only | 670 100% |
| 170.239.52.0/23 | No ROA | Other origin only | 670 100% |
| 170.239.54.0/24 | No ROA | Other origin only | 670 100% |
| 2804:2af0:4::/48 | No ROA | Nonecovered by 2804:2af0::/36 | 342 54% |
| 2804:2af0:6::/48 | No ROA | Nonecovered by 2804:2af0::/36 | 342 54% |
| 2804:2af0:700::/40 | No ROA | Nonecovered by 2804:2af0::/36 | 342 54% |
| 2804:2af0:800::/40 | No ROA | Nonecovered by 2804:2af0::/36 | 342 54% |
| 2804:2af0::/48 | No ROA | Nonecovered by 2804:2af0::/36 | 341 54% |
| 2804:2af0:1::/48 | No ROA | Nonecovered by 2804:2af0::/36 | 341 54% |
| 2804:2af0:2::/48 | No ROA | Nonecovered by 2804:2af0::/36 | 341 54% |
| 2804:2af0:7::/48 | No ROA | Nonecovered by 2804:2af0::/36 | 341 54% |
| 2804:2af0:100::/40 | No ROA | Nonecovered by 2804:2af0::/36 | 341 54% |
| 2804:2af0:200::/40 | No ROA | Nonecovered by 2804:2af0::/36 | 341 54% |
| 2804:2af0:300::/40 | No ROA | Nonecovered by 2804:2af0::/36 | 341 54% |
| 2804:2af0:400::/40 | No ROA | Nonecovered by 2804:2af0::/36 | 341 54% |
| 2804:2af0:500::/40 | No ROA | Nonecovered by 2804:2af0::/36 | 341 54% |
| 2804:2af0:600::/40 | No ROA | Nonecovered by 2804:2af0::/36 | 341 54% |
| 2804:2af0:900::/40 | No ROA | Nonecovered by 2804:2af0::/36 | 341 54% |
| 2804:2af0:a00::/40 | No ROA | Nonecovered by 2804:2af0::/36 | 341 54% |
| 2804:2af0:b00::/40 | No ROA | Nonecovered by 2804:2af0::/36 | 341 54% |
| 143.208.112.0/24 | No ROA | Other origin only | 190 28% |
| 143.208.113.0/24 | No ROA | Other origin only | 190 28% |
| 143.208.114.0/24 | No ROA | Other origin only | 190 28% |
| 143.208.115.0/24 | No ROA | Other origin only | 190 28% |
| 170.239.52.0/24 | No ROA | Other origin only | 190 28% |
| 170.239.53.0/24 | No ROA | Other origin only | 190 28% |
| 170.84.216.0/24 | No ROA | Other IRR onlyRADB, TC | 671 100% |
| 170.84.217.0/24 | No ROA | Other IRR onlyRADB, TC | 671 100% |
| 170.84.218.0/24 | No ROA | Other IRR onlyRADB, TC | 671 100% |
| 143.208.124.0/22 | No ROA | Other IRR onlyRADB, TC | 670 100% |
| 143.208.124.0/23 | No ROA | Other IRR onlyRADB, TC | 670 100% |
| 143.208.126.0/23 | No ROA | Other IRR onlyRADB, TC | 670 100% |
| 170.84.216.0/22 | No ROA | Other IRR onlyRADB, TC | 670 100% |
| 170.84.216.0/23 | No ROA | Other IRR onlyRADB, TC | 670 100% |
| 170.84.219.0/24 | No ROA | Other IRR onlyRADB, TC | 670 100% |
| 170.84.218.0/23 | No ROA | Other IRR onlyRADB | 669 99% |
| 2804:2af0::/32 | No ROA | Other IRR onlyRADB | 632 99% |
| 2804:2af0::/33 | No ROA | Other IRR onlyRADB | 341 54% |
| 2804:2af0:8000::/33 | No ROA | Other IRR onlyRADB | 341 54% |
| 143.208.124.0/24 | No ROA | Other IRR onlyRADB, TC | 190 28% |
| 143.208.125.0/24 | No ROA | Other IRR onlyRADB, TC | 190 28% |
| 143.208.127.0/24 | No ROA | Other IRR onlyRADB, TC | 190 28% |
| 143.208.126.0/24 | No ROA | Other IRR onlyRADB, TC | 189 28% |
AS-SET
PeeringDB's irr_as_set for AS265126: TC::AS265126:AS-FLEETNET. Expanded from the day's IRR dumps the way bgpq4 does against whois.radb.net: a name with a database is read from that database only, one without from the first database in RADB's order. "Not covered" = this network's own routes that a filter built from the set would leave out (AS265126 isn't in the set, or no route object for AS265126 covers the route; more-specifics of a route object are accepted down to /24 and /48, as with bgpq4 -A -R 24 / -R 48). Customers' routes aren't counted: the collectors show each route's origin, not which network it came through.
| Name | Database | ASNs | Sets | AS265126 in it | Not covered |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| TC::AS265126:AS-FLEETNET | TClists itself further down20 member sets in no database: AS-53062, AS-ASSIM, AS-CELERIX, AS-GDTELECOM-ALL, AS-LIFETEC … | 329 | 71 | Yes | 11 |
Fix list
The changes that would bring RPKI, the IRR and what's announced into line. Some are deliberate (a route object kept for a backup route, say); the network decides. All 138 are in fix.csv.
- ROA: none45
- Route object: none28
- Route object: RIR17
- AS-SET: missing member20
- Route object: not announced28
| Change | Prefix or set | Detail |
|---|---|---|
| ROA: none | 143.208.112.0/22 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 22. |
| Route object: none | 143.208.112.0/22 | Route objects for it name AS265128. Add a route object with origin AS265126 in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 143.208.112.0/23 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 23. |
| Route object: none | 143.208.112.0/23 | Route objects for it name AS265128. Add a route object with origin AS265126 in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 143.208.114.0/23 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 23. |
| Route object: none | 143.208.114.0/23 | Route objects for it name AS265128. Add a route object with origin AS265126 in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 170.239.52.0/23 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 23. |
| Route object: none | 170.239.52.0/23 | Route objects for it name AS265128. Add a route object with origin AS265126 in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 170.239.54.0/24 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 24. |
| Route object: none | 170.239.54.0/24 | Route objects for it name AS265128. Add a route object with origin AS265126 in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 2804:2af0:4::/48 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 48. |
| Route object: none | 2804:2af0:4::/48 | No route object for it. A route object for 2804:2af0::/36 with origin AS265126 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS265126 in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 2804:2af0:6::/48 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 48. |
| Route object: none | 2804:2af0:6::/48 | No route object for it. A route object for 2804:2af0::/36 with origin AS265126 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS265126 in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 2804:2af0:700::/40 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 40. |
| Route object: none | 2804:2af0:700::/40 | No route object for it. A route object for 2804:2af0::/36 with origin AS265126 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS265126 in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 2804:2af0:800::/40 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 40. |
| Route object: none | 2804:2af0:800::/40 | No route object for it. A route object for 2804:2af0::/36 with origin AS265126 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS265126 in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 2804:2af0::/48 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 48. |
| Route object: none | 2804:2af0::/48 | No route object for it. A route object for 2804:2af0::/36 with origin AS265126 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS265126 in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 2804:2af0:1::/48 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 48. |
| Route object: none | 2804:2af0:1::/48 | No route object for it. A route object for 2804:2af0::/36 with origin AS265126 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS265126 in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 2804:2af0:2::/48 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 48. |
| Route object: none | 2804:2af0:2::/48 | No route object for it. A route object for 2804:2af0::/36 with origin AS265126 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS265126 in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 2804:2af0:7::/48 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 48. |
| Route object: none | 2804:2af0:7::/48 | No route object for it. A route object for 2804:2af0::/36 with origin AS265126 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS265126 in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 2804:2af0:100::/40 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 40. |
| Route object: none | 2804:2af0:100::/40 | No route object for it. A route object for 2804:2af0::/36 with origin AS265126 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS265126 in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 2804:2af0:200::/40 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 40. |
| Route object: none | 2804:2af0:200::/40 | No route object for it. A route object for 2804:2af0::/36 with origin AS265126 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS265126 in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 2804:2af0:300::/40 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 40. |
| Route object: none | 2804:2af0:300::/40 | No route object for it. A route object for 2804:2af0::/36 with origin AS265126 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS265126 in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 2804:2af0:400::/40 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 40. |
| Route object: none | 2804:2af0:400::/40 | No route object for it. A route object for 2804:2af0::/36 with origin AS265126 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS265126 in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 2804:2af0:500::/40 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 40. |
| Route object: none | 2804:2af0:500::/40 | No route object for it. A route object for 2804:2af0::/36 with origin AS265126 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS265126 in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 2804:2af0:600::/40 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 40. |
| Route object: none | 2804:2af0:600::/40 | No route object for it. A route object for 2804:2af0::/36 with origin AS265126 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS265126 in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 2804:2af0:900::/40 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 40. |
| Route object: none | 2804:2af0:900::/40 | No route object for it. A route object for 2804:2af0::/36 with origin AS265126 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS265126 in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 2804:2af0:a00::/40 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 40. |
| Route object: none | 2804:2af0:a00::/40 | No route object for it. A route object for 2804:2af0::/36 with origin AS265126 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS265126 in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 2804:2af0:b00::/40 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 40. |
| Route object: none | 2804:2af0:b00::/40 | No route object for it. A route object for 2804:2af0::/36 with origin AS265126 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS265126 in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 143.208.112.0/24 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 24. |
| Route object: none | 143.208.112.0/24 | Route objects for it name AS265128. Add a route object with origin AS265126 in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 143.208.113.0/24 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 24. |
| Route object: none | 143.208.113.0/24 | Route objects for it name AS265128. Add a route object with origin AS265126 in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 143.208.114.0/24 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 24. |
| Route object: none | 143.208.114.0/24 | Route objects for it name AS265128. Add a route object with origin AS265126 in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 143.208.115.0/24 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 24. |
| Route object: none | 143.208.115.0/24 | Route objects for it name AS265128. Add a route object with origin AS265126 in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 170.239.52.0/24 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 24. |
| Route object: none | 170.239.52.0/24 | Route objects for it name AS265128. Add a route object with origin AS265126 in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 170.239.53.0/24 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 24. |
| Route object: none | 170.239.53.0/24 | Route objects for it name AS265128. Add a route object with origin AS265126 in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 170.84.216.0/24 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 24. |
| Route object: RIR | 170.84.216.0/24 | Route object only in RADB, TC. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 170.84.217.0/24 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 24. |
| Route object: RIR | 170.84.217.0/24 | Route object only in RADB, TC. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 170.84.218.0/24 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 24. |
| Route object: RIR | 170.84.218.0/24 | Route object only in RADB, TC. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 143.208.124.0/22 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 22. |
| Route object: RIR | 143.208.124.0/22 | Route object only in RADB, TC. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 143.208.124.0/23 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 23. |
| Route object: RIR | 143.208.124.0/23 | Route object only in RADB, TC. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 143.208.126.0/23 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 23. |
| Route object: RIR | 143.208.126.0/23 | Route object only in RADB, TC. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 170.84.216.0/22 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 22. |
| Route object: RIR | 170.84.216.0/22 | Route object only in RADB, TC. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 170.84.216.0/23 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 23. |
| Route object: RIR | 170.84.216.0/23 | Route object only in RADB, TC. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 170.84.219.0/24 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 24. |
| Route object: RIR | 170.84.219.0/24 | Route object only in RADB, TC. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 170.84.218.0/23 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 23. |
| Route object: RIR | 170.84.218.0/23 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 2804:2af0::/32 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 32. |
| Route object: RIR | 2804:2af0::/32 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 2804:2af0::/33 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 33. |
| Route object: RIR | 2804:2af0::/33 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 2804:2af0:8000::/33 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 33. |
| Route object: RIR | 2804:2af0:8000::/33 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 143.208.124.0/24 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 24. |
| Route object: RIR | 143.208.124.0/24 | Route object only in RADB, TC. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 143.208.125.0/24 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 24. |
| Route object: RIR | 143.208.125.0/24 | Route object only in RADB, TC. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 143.208.127.0/24 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 24. |
| Route object: RIR | 143.208.127.0/24 | Route object only in RADB, TC. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 143.208.126.0/24 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS265126, maxLength 24. |
| Route object: RIR | 143.208.126.0/24 | Route object only in RADB, TC. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| AS-SET: missing member | TC::AS265126:AS-FLEETNET | AS265126:AS-FLEETNET (TC) lists AS-53062; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | TC::AS265126:AS-FLEETNET | AS265126:AS-FLEETNET (TC) lists AS-ASSIM; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | TC::AS265126:AS-FLEETNET | AS265126:AS-FLEETNET (TC) lists AS-CELERIX; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | TC::AS265126:AS-FLEETNET | AS265126:AS-FLEETNET (TC) lists AS-GDTELECOM-ALL; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | TC::AS265126:AS-FLEETNET | AS265126:AS-FLEETNET (TC) lists AS-LIFETEC; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | TC::AS265126:AS-FLEETNET | AS265126:AS-FLEETNET (TC) lists AS-MIGONET; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | TC::AS265126:AS-FLEETNET | AS265126:AS-FLEETNET (TC) lists AS-NETDIGIT; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | TC::AS265126:AS-FLEETNET | AS265126:AS-FLEETNET (TC) lists AS-RRPROVEDOR; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | TC::AS265126:AS-FLEETNET | AS265126:AS-FLEETNET (TC) lists AS262493:AS-CUSTOMER; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | TC::AS265126:AS-FLEETNET | AS265126:AS-FLEETNET (TC) lists AS262493:AS-CUSTOMER-APEC; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | TC::AS265126:AS-FLEETNET | AS265126:AS-FLEETNET (TC) lists AS262493:AS-CUSTOMER-YES-FIBRA; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | TC::AS265126:AS-FLEETNET | AS265126:AS-FLEETNET (TC) lists AS262505:AS-CLIENTES; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | TC::AS265126:AS-FLEETNET | AS265126:AS-FLEETNET (TC) lists AS264352:AS-CUSTOMER; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | TC::AS265126:AS-FLEETNET | AS265126:AS-FLEETNET (TC) lists AS266186:AS-CUSTOMER-NANDONET; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | TC::AS265126:AS-FLEETNET | AS265126:AS-FLEETNET (TC) lists AS266251:AS-CUSTOMER-INFOWORLD; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | TC::AS265126:AS-FLEETNET | AS265126:AS-FLEETNET (TC) lists AS267380:AS-CUSTOMER-FULLCONECT; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | TC::AS265126:AS-FLEETNET | AS265126:AS-FLEETNET (TC) lists AS271303:AS-BRAYO; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | TC::AS265126:AS-FLEETNET | AS265126:AS-FLEETNET (TC) lists AS273798:AS-CUSTOMER-JSMELO; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | TC::AS265126:AS-FLEETNET | AS265126:AS-FLEETNET (TC) lists AS28634:AS-CUSTOMER-LIFE; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | TC::AS265126:AS-FLEETNET | AS265126:AS-FLEETNET (TC) lists AS53054:AS-CUSTOMER; no IRR database read has it. |
Route objects not announced
Route objects with origin AS265126 whose prefix no peer sees AS265126 announce. Many are kept on purpose (backup routes, space announced only in some places).
| 2804:2af0::/34 | RADB | No ROA |
| 2804:2af0::/35 | RADB | No ROA |
| 2804:2af0::/36 | RADB | No ROA |
| 2804:2af0:1000::/36 | RADB | No ROA |
| 2804:2af0:2000::/35 | RADB | No ROA |
| 2804:2af0:2000::/36 | RADB | No ROA |
| 2804:2af0:3000::/36 | RADB | No ROA |
| 2804:2af0:4000::/34 | RADB | No ROA |
| 2804:2af0:4000::/35 | RADB | No ROA |
| 2804:2af0:4000::/36 | RADB | No ROA |
| 2804:2af0:5000::/36 | RADB | No ROA |
| 2804:2af0:6000::/35 | RADB | No ROA |
| 2804:2af0:6000::/36 | RADB | No ROA |
| 2804:2af0:7000::/36 | RADB | No ROA |
| 2804:2af0:8000::/34 | RADB | No ROA |
| 2804:2af0:8000::/35 | RADB | No ROA |
| 2804:2af0:8000::/36 | RADB | No ROA |
| 2804:2af0:9000::/36 | RADB | No ROA |
| 2804:2af0:a000::/35 | RADB | No ROA |
| 2804:2af0:a000::/36 | RADB | No ROA |
| 2804:2af0:b000::/36 | RADB | No ROA |
| 2804:2af0:c000::/34 | RADB | No ROA |
| 2804:2af0:c000::/35 | RADB | No ROA |
| 2804:2af0:c000::/36 | RADB | No ROA |
| 2804:2af0:d000::/36 | RADB | No ROA |
| 2804:2af0:e000::/35 | RADB | No ROA |
| 2804:2af0:e000::/36 | RADB | No ROA |
| 2804:2af0:f000::/36 | RADB | No ROA |
Routes: the 08:00 UTC snapshots of 2026-11-12 from 75 RIPE RIS and RouteViews collectors. RPKI: our rpki-client run before the snapshot. IRR: the day's dumps of the five RIR databases and RADB's mirrors. The LEVEL3 and IDNIC databases publish no dump and aren't read, so route objects only there count as none.