Network · data from 2026-11-12
AS25645 Momentum Telecom AS25645
Registry name: MOMENTUM-ACCESS - Momentum Telecom, Inc., US · PeeringDB
Announced routes
Every prefix a peer of the route collectors sees with origin AS25645, things to look at first. Visibility = full-table peers that see it, of 673 (IPv4) and 636 (IPv6) on 75 collectors. Also as routes.csv.
| 23.162.48.0/24 | No ROA | Other origin only | 673 100% |
| 204.16.53.0/24 | No ROA | None | 671 100% |
| 64.92.91.0/24 | No ROA | Other IRR onlyRADB | 671 100% |
| 204.16.50.0/24 | No ROA | Other IRR onlyRADB | 671 100% |
| 204.16.51.0/24 | No ROA | Other IRR onlyRADB | 671 100% |
| 209.42.162.0/24 | No ROA | Other IRR onlyRADB | 671 100% |
| 209.55.11.0/24 | No ROA | Other IRR onlyRADB | 671 100% |
| 64.92.90.0/24 | No ROA | Other IRR onlyRADB | 668 99% |
| 209.35.110.0/24 | No ROA | Other IRR onlyRADB | 665 99% |
| 2607:b600:11::/48 | No ROA | Other IRR onlyRADB | 635 100% |
| 2605:8300::/47 | No ROA | Other IRR onlyRADB | 604 95% |
| 23.148.80.0/24 | Valid | Other origin only | 673 100% |
| 23.249.111.0/24 | Valid | Nonecovered by 23.249.104.0/21 | 673 100% |
| 64.92.78.0/23 | Valid | Nonecovered by 64.92.64.0/19 | 673 100% |
| 64.92.87.0/24 | Valid | Nonecovered by 64.92.64.0/19 | 673 100% |
| 64.92.88.0/24 | Valid | Nonecovered by 64.92.64.0/19 | 673 100% |
| 66.118.240.0/22 | Valid | None | 673 100% |
| 69.64.116.0/24 | Valid | None | 673 100% |
| 69.64.117.0/24 | Valid | None | 673 100% |
| 69.64.118.0/24 | Valid | None | 673 100% |
| 165.254.32.0/23 | Valid | Other origin only | 673 100% |
| 204.2.172.0/22 | Valid | Other origin only | 673 100% |
| 204.16.52.0/24 | Valid | None | 673 100% |
| 204.174.30.0/24 | Valid | Other origin only | 673 100% |
| 64.92.64.0/24 | Valid | Nonecovered by 64.92.64.0/19 | 671 100% |
| 64.92.72.0/24 | Valid | Nonecovered by 64.92.64.0/19 | 671 100% |
| 64.92.79.0/24 | Valid | Nonecovered by 64.92.64.0/19 | 671 100% |
| 64.92.84.0/24 | Valid | Nonecovered by 64.92.64.0/19 | 671 100% |
| 69.64.119.0/24 | Valid | Other origin only | 671 100% |
| 64.92.89.0/24 | Valid | Nonecovered by 64.92.64.0/19 | 665 99% |
| 2605:8300:8::/48 | Valid | Nonecovered by 2605:8300::/32 | 635 100% |
| 2605:8300:17::/48 | Valid | Nonecovered by 2605:8300::/32 | 635 100% |
| 137.239.195.0/24 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 673 100% |
| 137.239.208.0/24 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 673 100% |
| 137.239.213.0/24 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 673 100% |
| 204.174.27.0/24 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 673 100% |
| 64.92.65.0/24 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 671 100% |
| 64.92.75.0/24 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 671 100% |
| 137.239.194.0/24 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 671 100% |
| 137.239.200.0/24 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 671 100% |
| 204.174.18.0/24 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 671 100% |
| 204.174.20.0/24 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 671 100% |
| 209.42.161.0/24 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 671 100% |
| 209.42.163.0/24 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 671 100% |
| 23.249.96.0/21 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 670 100% |
| 23.249.104.0/21 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 670 100% |
| 64.92.76.0/24 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 670 100% |
| 137.239.218.0/24 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 670 100% |
| 204.174.16.0/24 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 670 100% |
| 204.174.19.0/24 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 670 100% |
| 137.239.192.0/24 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 668 99% |
| 137.239.193.0/24 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 668 99% |
| 137.239.207.0/24 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 668 99% |
| 137.239.210.0/24 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 668 99% |
| 137.239.211.0/24 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 668 99% |
| 141.193.230.0/24 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 668 99% |
| 148.59.63.0/24 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 668 99% |
| 148.59.139.0/24 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 668 99% |
| 204.174.22.0/24 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 668 99% |
| 204.174.23.0/24 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 668 99% |
| 204.174.24.0/24 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 668 99% |
| 208.85.132.0/24 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 668 99% |
| 209.35.105.0/24 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 668 99% |
| 209.42.160.0/24 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 667 99% |
| 204.174.21.0/24 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 665 99% |
| 2605:8300:1b::/48 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 636 100% |
| 2605:8300:2::/48 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 635 100% |
| 2605:8300:f::/48 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 635 100% |
| 2605:8300:14::/48 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 635 100% |
| 2605:8300:1a::/48 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 634 100% |
| 2605:8300:e::/48 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 633 100% |
| 2605:8300:13::/48 | Valid | Other IRR onlyRADB | 321 50% |
| 64.92.69.0/24 | Valid | RIR databaseARIN, RADB | 673 100% |
| 64.92.71.0/24 | Valid | RIR databaseARIN | 673 100% |
| 64.92.82.0/24 | Valid | RIR databaseARIN, RADB | 673 100% |
| 64.92.83.0/24 | Valid | RIR databaseARIN, RADB | 673 100% |
| 64.92.92.0/24 | Valid | RIR databaseARIN, RADB | 673 100% |
| 137.239.196.0/24 | Valid | RIR databaseARIN, RADB | 673 100% |
| 137.239.206.0/24 | Valid | RIR databaseARIN, RADB | 673 100% |
| 137.239.212.0/24 | Valid | RIR databaseARIN, RADB | 673 100% |
| 137.239.214.0/24 | Valid | RIR databaseARIN | 673 100% |
| 204.174.17.0/24 | Valid | RIR databaseARIN, RADB | 673 100% |
| 204.174.28.0/24 | Valid | RIR databaseARIN, RADB | 673 100% |
| 209.42.168.0/24 | Valid | RIR databaseARIN | 673 100% |
| 209.42.171.0/24 | Valid | RIR databaseARIN, RADB | 673 100% |
| 209.178.252.0/24 | Valid | RIR databaseARIN | 673 100% |
| 64.92.80.0/24 | Valid | RIR databaseARIN | 671 100% |
| 64.92.85.0/24 | Valid | RIR databaseARIN, RADB | 671 100% |
| 209.42.165.0/24 | Valid | RIR databaseARIN, RADB | 671 100% |
| 209.42.170.0/24 | Valid | RIR databaseARIN, RADB | 671 100% |
| 209.42.179.0/24 | Valid | RIR databaseARIN, RADB | 671 100% |
| 64.92.78.0/24 | Valid | RIR databaseARIN | 668 99% |
| 204.16.54.0/24 | Valid | RIR databaseARIN | 668 99% |
| 209.42.169.0/24 | Valid | RIR databaseARIN | 667 99% |
| 2605:8300:c::/48 | Valid | RIR databaseARIN | 605 95% |
AS-SET
PeeringDB's irr_as_set for AS25645: RADB::AS-MTMACCESS. Expanded from the day's IRR dumps the way bgpq4 does against whois.radb.net: a name with a database is read from that database only, one without from the first database in RADB's order. "Not covered" = this network's own routes that a filter built from the set would leave out (AS25645 isn't in the set, or no route object for AS25645 covers the route; more-specifics of a route object are accepted down to /24 and /48, as with bgpq4 -A -R 24 / -R 48). Customers' routes aren't counted: the collectors show each route's origin, not which network it came through.
| Name | Database | ASNs | Sets | AS25645 in it | Not covered |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| RADB::AS-MTMACCESS | RADB17 member sets in no database: AS-16715, AS-396956, AS-401674-HUB-8, AS-AWI, AS-EDGEWELL … | 74 | 9 | Yes | 12 |
Fix list
The changes that would bring RPKI, the IRR and what's announced into line. Some are deliberate (a route object kept for a backup route, say); the network decides. All 120 are in fix.csv.
- ROA: none11
- Route object: none23
- Route object: RIR49
- AS-SET: missing member17
- Route object: not announced20
| Change | Prefix or set | Detail |
|---|---|---|
| ROA: none | 23.162.48.0/24 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS25645, maxLength 24. |
| Route object: none | 23.162.48.0/24 | Route objects for it name AS398202. Add a route object with origin AS25645 in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 204.16.53.0/24 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS25645, maxLength 24. |
| Route object: none | 204.16.53.0/24 | No route object for it. Add a route object with origin AS25645 in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 64.92.91.0/24 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS25645, maxLength 24. |
| Route object: RIR | 64.92.91.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 204.16.50.0/24 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS25645, maxLength 24. |
| Route object: RIR | 204.16.50.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 204.16.51.0/24 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS25645, maxLength 24. |
| Route object: RIR | 204.16.51.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 209.42.162.0/24 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS25645, maxLength 24. |
| Route object: RIR | 209.42.162.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 209.55.11.0/24 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS25645, maxLength 24. |
| Route object: RIR | 209.55.11.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 64.92.90.0/24 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS25645, maxLength 24. |
| Route object: RIR | 64.92.90.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 209.35.110.0/24 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS25645, maxLength 24. |
| Route object: RIR | 209.35.110.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 2607:b600:11::/48 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS25645, maxLength 48. |
| Route object: RIR | 2607:b600:11::/48 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| ROA: none | 2605:8300::/47 | No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS25645, maxLength 47. |
| Route object: RIR | 2605:8300::/47 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: none | 23.148.80.0/24 | Route objects for it name AS398202. Add a route object with origin AS25645 in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: none | 23.249.111.0/24 | No route object for it. A route object for 23.249.104.0/21 with origin AS25645 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS25645 in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: none | 64.92.78.0/23 | No route object for it. A route object for 64.92.64.0/19 with origin AS25645 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS25645 in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: none | 64.92.87.0/24 | No route object for it. A route object for 64.92.64.0/19 with origin AS25645 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS25645 in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: none | 64.92.88.0/24 | No route object for it. A route object for 64.92.64.0/19 with origin AS25645 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS25645 in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: none | 66.118.240.0/22 | No route object for it. Add a route object with origin AS25645 in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: none | 69.64.116.0/24 | No route object for it. Add a route object with origin AS25645 in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: none | 69.64.117.0/24 | No route object for it. Add a route object with origin AS25645 in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: none | 69.64.118.0/24 | No route object for it. Add a route object with origin AS25645 in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: none | 165.254.32.0/23 | Route objects for it name AS35885, AS398202. Add a route object with origin AS25645 in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: none | 204.2.172.0/22 | Route objects for it name AS398202. Add a route object with origin AS25645 in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: none | 204.16.52.0/24 | No route object for it. Add a route object with origin AS25645 in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: none | 204.174.30.0/24 | Route objects for it name AS33059. Add a route object with origin AS25645 in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: none | 64.92.64.0/24 | No route object for it. A route object for 64.92.64.0/19 with origin AS25645 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS25645 in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: none | 64.92.72.0/24 | No route object for it. A route object for 64.92.64.0/19 with origin AS25645 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS25645 in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: none | 64.92.79.0/24 | No route object for it. A route object for 64.92.64.0/19 with origin AS25645 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS25645 in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: none | 64.92.84.0/24 | No route object for it. A route object for 64.92.64.0/19 with origin AS25645 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS25645 in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: none | 69.64.119.0/24 | Route objects for it name AS35885. Add a route object with origin AS25645 in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: none | 64.92.89.0/24 | No route object for it. A route object for 64.92.64.0/19 with origin AS25645 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS25645 in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: none | 2605:8300:8::/48 | No route object for it. A route object for 2605:8300::/32 with origin AS25645 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS25645 in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: none | 2605:8300:17::/48 | No route object for it. A route object for 2605:8300::/32 with origin AS25645 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS25645 in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 137.239.195.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 137.239.208.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 137.239.213.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 204.174.27.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 64.92.65.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 64.92.75.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 137.239.194.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 137.239.200.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 204.174.18.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 204.174.20.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 209.42.161.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 209.42.163.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 23.249.96.0/21 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 23.249.104.0/21 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 64.92.76.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 137.239.218.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 204.174.16.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 204.174.19.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 137.239.192.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 137.239.193.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 137.239.207.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 137.239.210.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 137.239.211.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 141.193.230.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 148.59.63.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 148.59.139.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 204.174.22.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 204.174.23.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 204.174.24.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 208.85.132.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 209.35.105.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 209.42.160.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 204.174.21.0/24 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 2605:8300:1b::/48 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 2605:8300:2::/48 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 2605:8300:f::/48 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 2605:8300:14::/48 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 2605:8300:1a::/48 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 2605:8300:e::/48 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| Route object: RIR | 2605:8300:13::/48 | Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space. |
| AS-SET: missing member | RADB::AS-MTMACCESS | AS-MTMACCESS (RADB) lists AS-16715; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | RADB::AS-MTMACCESS | AS-MTMACCESS (RADB) lists AS-396956; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | RADB::AS-MTMACCESS | AS-MTMACCESS (RADB) lists AS-401674-HUB-8; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | RADB::AS-MTMACCESS | AS-MTMACCESS (RADB) lists AS-AWI; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | RADB::AS-MTMACCESS | AS-MTMACCESS (RADB) lists AS-EDGEWELL; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | RADB::AS-MTMACCESS | AS-MTMACCESS (RADB) lists AS-EPBCFK; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | RADB::AS-MTMACCESS | AS-MTMACCESS (RADB) lists AS-FPU-5; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | RADB::AS-MTMACCESS | AS-MTMACCESS (RADB) lists AS-HARLANONLINE; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | RADB::AS-MTMACCESS | AS-MTMACCESS (RADB) lists AS-HOMETOWN-01; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | RADB::AS-MTMACCESS | AS-MTMACCESS (RADB) lists AS-HON; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | RADB::AS-MTMACCESS | AS-MTMACCESS (RADB) lists AS-MTMACCESS-MONITORING; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | RADB::AS-MTMACCESS | AS-MTMACCESS (RADB) lists AS-ORG-FIBERCONNECT; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | RADB::AS-MTMACCESS | AS-MTMACCESS (RADB) lists AS-PAAS-STG; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | RADB::AS-MTMACCESS | AS-MTMACCESS (RADB) lists AS-SAMUEL-A-RAMIREZ; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | RADB::AS-MTMACCESS | AS-MTMACCESS (RADB) lists AS14354:AS-IT; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | RADB::AS-MTMACCESS | AS-MTMACCESS (RADB) lists AS1640:AS-ALL; no IRR database read has it. |
| AS-SET: missing member | RADB::AS-MTMACCESS | AS-MTMACCESS (RADB) lists AS396305:AS-CONE; no IRR database read has it. |
Route objects not announced
Route objects with origin AS25645 whose prefix no peer sees AS25645 announce. Many are kept on purpose (backup routes, space announced only in some places).
| 23.249.96.0/20 | RADB | No ROA |
| 63.209.193.0/24 | RADB | No ROA |
| 64.92.64.0/19 | RADB | No ROA |
| 64.92.93.0/24 | RADB | No ROA |
| 64.92.94.0/24 | RADB | No ROA |
| 64.92.95.0/24 | RADB | No ROA |
| 137.239.198.0/24 | ARIN, RADB | Valid |
| 137.239.202.0/24 | RADB | Valid |
| 137.239.219.0/24 | ARIN | No ROA |
| 204.174.26.0/24 | RADB | No ROA |
| 208.67.12.0/22 | RADB | No ROA |
| 208.85.128.0/21 | ARIN | No ROA |
| 208.85.131.0/24 | RADB | No ROA |
| 209.42.182.0/24 | ARIN, RADB | Valid |
| 2001:470:5f9::/48 | ARIN | Valid |
| 2001:470:5fa::/48 | ARIN | Valid |
| 2605:8300::/32 | RADB | No ROA |
| 2605:8300:6::/48 | ARIN, RADB | Valid |
| 2605:8300:12::/48 | ARIN | Valid |
| 2605:8300:ffff::/48 | RADB | No ROA |
Routes: the 08:00 UTC snapshots of 2026-11-12 from 75 RIPE RIS and RouteViews collectors. RPKI: our rpki-client run before the snapshot. IRR: the day's dumps of the five RIR databases and RADB's mirrors. The LEVEL3 and IDNIC databases publish no dump and aren't read, so route objects only there count as none.