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AS18434 Fidelity National Information Services, Inc.

Registry name: FNIS - Fidelity National Information Services, Inc., US · PeeringDB

99IPv4 routes 83.8% RPKI valid · 86.9% with a route object
0IPv6 routes
0RPKI invalid 0 origin · 0 maxLength
16No ROA 13 with no route object for this origin
0Low visibility seen by under 10% of full-table peers
210Route objects not announced registered with origin AS18434, seen from no peer

Announced routes

Every prefix a peer of the route collectors sees with origin AS18434, things to look at first. Visibility = full-table peers that see it, of 673 (IPv4) and 636 (IPv6) on 75 collectors. Also as routes.csv.

198.84.9.0/24 No ROA None 673 100% 67
147.249.87.0/24 No ROA Nonecovered by 147.249.0.0/16 672 100% 67
147.249.88.0/24 No ROA Nonecovered by 147.249.0.0/16 672 100% 67
147.249.89.0/24 No ROA Nonecovered by 147.249.0.0/16 672 100% 67
147.249.242.0/24 No ROA Other origin onlycovered by 147.249.0.0/16 672 100% 67
147.249.243.0/24 No ROA Other origin onlycovered by 147.249.0.0/16 672 100% 67
12.6.9.0/24 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB 672 100% 67
12.19.55.0/24 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB 672 100% 67
207.250.227.0/24 No ROA Other IRR onlyRADB 672 100% 67
198.84.8.0/24 No ROA RIR databaseARIN 673 100% 67
64.132.202.0/24 No ROA RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
207.67.75.0/24 No ROA RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
207.250.225.0/24 No ROA RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
69.36.26.0/24 No ROA RIR databaseARIN, RADB 671 100% 67
69.36.27.0/24 No ROA RIR databaseARIN 671 100% 67
199.74.216.0/24 No ROA RIR databaseARIN, RADB 671 100% 67
156.55.68.0/24 Valid Nonecovered by 156.55.0.0/16 673 100% 67
156.55.242.0/24 Valid Nonecovered by 156.55.0.0/16 673 100% 66
156.55.245.0/24 Valid Nonecovered by 156.55.0.0/16 673 100% 66
147.249.5.0/24 Valid Nonecovered by 147.249.0.0/16 672 100% 67
147.249.17.0/24 Valid Nonecovered by 147.249.16.0/22 672 100% 67
147.249.189.0/24 Valid Nonecovered by 147.249.188.0/22 672 100% 67
147.249.13.0/24 Valid Nonecovered by 147.249.12.0/22 671 100% 67
156.55.67.0/24 Valid Other IRR onlyRADB 673 100% 67
156.55.171.0/24 Valid Other IRR onlyRADB 673 100% 67
156.55.218.0/24 Valid Other IRR onlyRADB 673 100% 67
156.55.240.0/24 Valid Other IRR onlyRADB 673 100% 67
147.249.44.0/24 Valid Other IRR onlyRADB 672 100% 67
185.41.232.0/24 Valid Other IRR onlyRADB 672 100% 67
185.41.233.0/24 Valid Other IRR onlyRADB 672 100% 67
185.41.234.0/24 Valid Other IRR onlyRADB 672 100% 67
147.249.33.0/24 Valid Other IRR onlyRADB 671 100% 66
185.41.235.0/24 Valid Other IRR onlyRADB 671 100% 67
147.249.200.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN 673 100% 67
156.55.77.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 673 100% 67
156.55.78.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 673 100% 67
156.55.144.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 673 100% 67
156.55.193.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 673 100% 67
63.141.160.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN 672 100% 67
63.141.161.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN 672 100% 67
69.36.16.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
147.249.0.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN 672 100% 67
147.249.1.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN 672 100% 67
147.249.4.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
147.249.16.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
147.249.19.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
147.249.53.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
147.249.73.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN 672 100% 67
147.249.74.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN 672 100% 67
147.249.188.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
147.249.193.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
156.55.27.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
156.55.110.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
156.55.112.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
156.55.125.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
156.55.127.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
156.55.134.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
156.55.137.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
156.55.139.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
156.55.157.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
156.55.173.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
156.55.174.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
156.55.200.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
156.55.201.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
156.55.204.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
156.55.205.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
195.110.230.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN 672 100% 67
205.141.247.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
206.71.16.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
206.71.17.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
206.71.18.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
206.71.19.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
206.71.20.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
206.71.21.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
206.71.22.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
206.71.28.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
206.71.29.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
206.71.31.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
216.189.252.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 672 100% 67
69.36.18.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 671 100% 67
147.249.12.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 671 100% 67
147.249.52.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN 671 100% 67
156.55.42.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 671 100% 67
156.55.138.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 671 100% 67
156.55.164.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 671 100% 67
156.55.165.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 671 100% 67
156.55.166.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 671 100% 67
156.55.167.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 671 100% 67
156.55.176.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 671 100% 67
156.55.177.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 671 100% 67
156.55.202.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 671 100% 67
156.55.203.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 671 100% 67
199.200.24.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 671 100% 67
199.200.25.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 671 100% 67
199.200.26.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 671 100% 67
199.200.27.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 671 100% 67
216.189.244.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 671 100% 67
216.189.254.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 671 100% 67
216.189.255.0/24 Valid RIR databaseARIN, RADB 671 100% 67

AS-SET

AS18434's PeeringDB record names no AS-SET.

Fix list

The changes that would bring RPKI, the IRR and what's announced into line. Some are deliberate (a route object kept for a backup route, say); the network decides. All 252 are in fix.csv.

  • ROA: none16
  • Route object: none13
  • Route object: RIR13
  • Route object: not announced210
ChangePrefix or setDetailFull-table peers
ROA: none198.84.9.0/24No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS18434, maxLength 24.673 of 673
Route object: none198.84.9.0/24No route object for it. Add a route object with origin AS18434 in the RIR database for the space.673 of 673
ROA: none147.249.87.0/24No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS18434, maxLength 24.672 of 673
Route object: none147.249.87.0/24No route object for it. A route object for 147.249.0.0/16 with origin AS18434 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS18434 in the RIR database for the space.672 of 673
ROA: none147.249.88.0/24No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS18434, maxLength 24.672 of 673
Route object: none147.249.88.0/24No route object for it. A route object for 147.249.0.0/16 with origin AS18434 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS18434 in the RIR database for the space.672 of 673
ROA: none147.249.89.0/24No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS18434, maxLength 24.672 of 673
Route object: none147.249.89.0/24No route object for it. A route object for 147.249.0.0/16 with origin AS18434 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS18434 in the RIR database for the space.672 of 673
ROA: none147.249.242.0/24No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS18434, maxLength 24.672 of 673
Route object: none147.249.242.0/24Route objects for it name AS6419. A route object for 147.249.0.0/16 with origin AS18434 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS18434 in the RIR database for the space.672 of 673
ROA: none147.249.243.0/24No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS18434, maxLength 24.672 of 673
Route object: none147.249.243.0/24Route objects for it name AS6419. A route object for 147.249.0.0/16 with origin AS18434 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS18434 in the RIR database for the space.672 of 673
ROA: none12.6.9.0/24No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS18434, maxLength 24.672 of 673
Route object: RIR12.6.9.0/24Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space.672 of 673
ROA: none12.19.55.0/24No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS18434, maxLength 24.672 of 673
Route object: RIR12.19.55.0/24Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space.672 of 673
ROA: none207.250.227.0/24No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS18434, maxLength 24.672 of 673
Route object: RIR207.250.227.0/24Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space.672 of 673
ROA: none198.84.8.0/24No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS18434, maxLength 24.673 of 673
ROA: none64.132.202.0/24No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS18434, maxLength 24.672 of 673
ROA: none207.67.75.0/24No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS18434, maxLength 24.672 of 673
ROA: none207.250.225.0/24No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS18434, maxLength 24.672 of 673
ROA: none69.36.26.0/24No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS18434, maxLength 24.671 of 673
ROA: none69.36.27.0/24No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS18434, maxLength 24.671 of 673
ROA: none199.74.216.0/24No ROA covers it. Add a ROA for AS18434, maxLength 24.671 of 673
Route object: none156.55.68.0/24No route object for it. A route object for 156.55.0.0/16 with origin AS18434 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS18434 in the RIR database for the space.673 of 673
Route object: none156.55.242.0/24No route object for it. A route object for 156.55.0.0/16 with origin AS18434 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS18434 in the RIR database for the space.673 of 673
Route object: none156.55.245.0/24No route object for it. A route object for 156.55.0.0/16 with origin AS18434 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS18434 in the RIR database for the space.673 of 673
Route object: none147.249.5.0/24No route object for it. A route object for 147.249.0.0/16 with origin AS18434 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS18434 in the RIR database for the space.672 of 673
Route object: none147.249.17.0/24No route object for it. A route object for 147.249.16.0/22 with origin AS18434 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS18434 in the RIR database for the space.672 of 673
Route object: none147.249.189.0/24No route object for it. A route object for 147.249.188.0/22 with origin AS18434 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS18434 in the RIR database for the space.672 of 673
Route object: none147.249.13.0/24No route object for it. A route object for 147.249.12.0/22 with origin AS18434 covers it (filters allowing more-specifics accept it). Add a route object with origin AS18434 in the RIR database for the space.671 of 673
Route object: RIR156.55.67.0/24Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space.673 of 673
Route object: RIR156.55.171.0/24Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space.673 of 673
Route object: RIR156.55.218.0/24Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space.673 of 673
Route object: RIR156.55.240.0/24Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space.673 of 673
Route object: RIR147.249.44.0/24Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space.672 of 673
Route object: RIR185.41.232.0/24Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space.672 of 673
Route object: RIR185.41.233.0/24Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space.672 of 673
Route object: RIR185.41.234.0/24Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space.672 of 673
Route object: RIR147.249.33.0/24Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space.671 of 673
Route object: RIR185.41.235.0/24Route object only in RADB. Add it in the RIR database for the space.671 of 673

Route objects not announced

Route objects with origin AS18434 whose prefix no peer sees AS18434 announce. Many are kept on purpose (backup routes, space announced only in some places).

12.69.144.0/23RADBNo ROA
12.69.146.0/23RADBNo ROA
12.190.156.0/23RADBNo ROA
12.191.20.0/23RADBNo ROA
12.195.6.0/23RADBNo ROA
63.86.187.0/24RADBNo ROA
63.96.1.0/24RADBNo ROA
63.141.167.0/24ARINNo ROA
63.141.168.0/24ARINNo ROA
63.141.176.0/24ARINNo ROA
65.88.22.0/24RADBNo ROA
65.210.127.0/24RADBNo ROA
65.244.142.0/24RADBNo ROA
65.245.75.0/24RADBNo ROA
69.36.16.0/20RADBNo ROA
69.36.20.0/24ARINNo ROA
69.36.21.0/24ARINNo ROA
69.36.22.0/24ARINNo ROA
69.36.26.0/23ARINNo ROA
69.36.28.0/23ARINNo ROA
70.34.66.0/24ARIN, RADBNo ROA
74.114.64.0/24RADBNo ROA
74.202.82.0/24ARIN, RADBNo ROA
75.42.203.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.0.0/16ARINNo ROA
147.249.10.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.12.0/22ARINNo ROA
147.249.16.0/22ARINNo ROA
147.249.35.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.36.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.37.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.37.13/32ARIN, RADBNo ROA
147.249.37.14/32ARIN, RADBNo ROA
147.249.37.15/32ARIN, RADBNo ROA
147.249.37.16/32ARIN, RADBNo ROA
147.249.38.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.39.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.46.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.47.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.54.0/24ARINNo ROA
147.249.55.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.56.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.57.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.58.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.59.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.60.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.61.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.62.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.63.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.64.0/24ARINValid
147.249.84.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.90.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.91.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.94.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.103.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.104.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.120.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.121.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.122.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.123.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.126.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.128.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.129.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.130.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.131.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.133.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.134.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.135.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.136.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.137.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.138.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.139.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.140.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.141.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.143.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.144.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.145.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.146.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.147.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.149.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.157.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.158.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.160.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.161.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.165.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.167.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.168.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.169.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.170.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.171.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.175.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.176.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.177.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.178.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.179.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.180.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.181.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.182.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.183.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.184.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.188.0/22ARINNo ROA
147.249.196.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.197.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.198.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.199.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.201.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.203.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.204.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.215.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.230.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.233.0/24RADBNo ROA
147.249.239.0/24RADBNo ROA
156.55.0.0/16RADBNo ROA
156.55.25.0/24ARINNo ROA
156.55.26.0/24ARINNo ROA
156.55.30.0/24RADBNo ROA
156.55.32.0/24ARIN, RADBNo ROA
156.55.54.0/23ARINNo ROA
156.55.86.0/24ARIN, RADBNo ROA
156.55.92.0/23ARINNo ROA
156.55.93.0/24ARINNo ROA
156.55.94.0/24ARINNo ROA
156.55.95.0/24RADBNo ROA
156.55.124.0/22ARINNo ROA
156.55.128.0/24ARINNo ROA
156.55.129.0/24ARINNo ROA
156.55.130.0/24ARINNo ROA
156.55.131.0/24ARINNo ROA
156.55.132.0/22ARINNo ROA
156.55.142.0/23ARINNo ROA
156.55.142.0/24ARINValid
156.55.143.0/24ARINValid
156.55.148.0/22ARINNo ROA
156.55.149.0/24ARINValid
156.55.151.0/24ARINValid
156.55.156.0/23ARINNo ROA
156.55.156.0/24ARINValid
156.55.164.0/22ARINNo ROA
156.55.172.0/24ARINValid
156.55.174.0/23ARINNo ROA
156.55.176.0/23ARINNo ROA
156.55.178.0/24ARINNo ROA
156.55.192.0/24ARINNo ROA
156.55.194.0/24ARINNo ROA
156.55.196.0/24ARINNo ROA
156.55.197.0/24ARINNo ROA
156.55.200.0/23ARINNo ROA
156.55.202.0/23ARINNo ROA
156.55.204.0/23ARINNo ROA
170.88.0.0/16RADBNo ROA
170.88.98.0/24RADBNo ROA
170.88.113.0/24RADBNo ROA
174.46.92.0/22ARINNo ROA
192.88.5.0/24RADBNo ROA
192.88.51.0/24RADBNo ROA
192.88.52.0/24RADBNo ROA
192.88.53.0/24RADBNo ROA
192.88.54.0/24RADBNo ROA
192.88.55.0/24RADBNo ROA
192.88.56.0/24RADBNo ROA
192.88.57.0/24RADBNo ROA
192.88.58.0/24RADBNo ROA
192.88.59.0/24RADBNo ROA
192.88.60.0/24RADBNo ROA
192.88.61.0/24RADBNo ROA
192.88.62.0/24RADBNo ROA
192.88.63.0/24RADBNo ROA
192.88.64.0/24RADBNo ROA
192.88.65.0/24RADBNo ROA
192.88.66.0/24RADBNo ROA
192.88.67.0/24RADBNo ROA
192.88.68.0/24RADBNo ROA
192.88.69.0/24RADBNo ROA
192.88.70.0/24RADBNo ROA
192.88.71.0/24RADBNo ROA
192.88.72.0/24RADBNo ROA
192.88.73.0/24RADBNo ROA
192.88.74.0/24RADBNo ROA
192.88.75.0/24RADBNo ROA
192.88.76.0/24RADBNo ROA
192.88.77.0/24RADBNo ROA
192.88.78.0/24RADBNo ROA
192.88.79.0/24RADBNo ROA
199.74.216.0/22ARINNo ROA
199.74.217.0/24RADBNo ROA
199.74.218.0/23RADBNo ROA
199.200.16.0/21RADBNo ROA
199.200.24.0/22ARINNo ROA
199.249.154.0/24ARINNo ROA
204.16.25.0/24RADBNo ROA
205.141.240.0/20RADBNo ROA
205.141.240.0/24ARINNo ROA
205.141.241.0/24ARINNo ROA
205.141.242.0/24ARINNo ROA
205.141.243.0/24ARINNo ROA
205.141.244.0/24ARINNo ROA
205.141.249.0/24ARINNo ROA
205.141.250.0/24ARINNo ROA
205.141.252.0/24ARINNo ROA
205.141.253.0/24ARINNo ROA
206.54.154.0/24RADBNo ROA
206.71.16.0/20RADBNo ROA
206.71.23.0/24ARINNo ROA
206.71.24.0/24ARINNo ROA
207.250.28.0/24ARINNo ROA
207.250.224.0/24ARINNo ROA
208.75.5.0/24ARINNo ROA
208.75.6.0/24ARINNo ROA
216.189.224.0/19RADBNo ROA
216.189.251.0/24ARINNo ROA

Routes: the 08:00 UTC snapshots of 2026-11-12 from 75 RIPE RIS and RouteViews collectors. RPKI: our rpki-client run before the snapshot. IRR: the day's dumps of the five RIR databases and RADB's mirrors. The LEVEL3 and IDNIC databases publish no dump and aren't read, so route objects only there count as none.